Your Guide to 90%+ Breeding Pairs
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Your Guide to 90%+ Breeding Pairs
By Suriya with information from personal experience making pairs with Shazi and asking a lot of questions of Garthic. Also credits to Pheaux for providing really helpful information.
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So it would seem that people still don't know the basics of the new percentage calculations and how to get breeding pairs that are in the 90% range. This is just meant to be a quick reference to explain how to get them.
Basics of Making a Breeding Pair
1.) Pokemon must come from two different Original Trainers and be traded to you by those trainers.
Pokemon hatched from eggs adopted from the Lab seem to be extremely good for making pairs. Lab pokemon do not give a breeding bonus. This was tested and debunked.
Remember that once a pokemon pair has 'seen' each other (and by that I mean they have been put in the Daycare with each other) their percentage will NOT change if they are Traded and see each other again. The percentage is locked. You will need to start over.
- *Pokemon adopted from the Shelter have been 'released' and their OT resets. When you adopt it from the Shelter, YOU become the new OT.
- *YOU do not count as an OT when this method is used. If you Trade the pokemon to someone else and get it back, the OT has not changed and you do not gain the 20% bonus.
- Ex: Shazi and I both get X pokemon for person A and trade them to person A. Person A now has two pokemon from differnt OTs with the 20% bonus. Neither pokemon was originally Person A's and therefore will potentially give a 90%+ pair.
A Helpful Breakdown by Emmy
If it helps any, here are three of SurÃya's examples broken down into simple steps for those still having trouble understanding the system:
Scenario 1
User A hatches and releases Pokemon.
User B adopts Pokemon.
User B is the OT.
Scenario 2
User A hatches and trades Pokemon to User B.
User B releases Pokemon.
User C adopts Pokemon.
User A is the OT.
Scenario 3
User A hatches and releases Pokemon.
User B adopts and trades to User C.
User B is the OT.
Trading before release overrides the Shelter's OT reset.
Practice Scenario
User A hatches and releases Pokemon.
User B adopts and releases Pokemon.
User C adopts and trades Pokemon to User D.
User D releases Pokemon.
User B adopts Pokemon and trades back to User A.
Who is the OT in this scenario?
ANSWER
User C is the OT.
STEPS 1 and 2 can be ignored because no trade took place before the Pokemon's first and second release. Trading the Pokemon for the first time in STEP 3 designates User C as the OT. Every STEP afterward can be ignored.
What About Wonder Trading?
Wonder trading works almost exactly like a normal trade, the first person who traded the pokemon, whether that be a regular trade or a wonder trade, is locked in as the OT.
The exception to this are pokemon wonder traded before February 1st 2016. These will not have an OT locked in place, due to changes made to wonder trading along with the side revamp that happened during this time. The old wonder trading system renders the pokemon not compatible with the current breeding system.
An easy way to see at a glance if your pokemon is wondertraded at the right time is to check the timeline. As you can see with this Cottonee I have there are 3 wonder trades that do not list any trainers. Because this entry is a trade, but does not have the listings for who the trade was to or from the system does not recognise who the OT is and will not grant the 20% boost.
Monogender and Genderless pokemon
Monogender (male or female only species) Pokemon work a little differently. Some had a matching counter species (Miltank and Tauros, Vullaby and Rufflet) while others don't (Jynx, Tsareena etc) but ultimately the best way to breed them is to pair them with a pokemon of similar typing, body shape and egg group.
Please note that monogender fakemon such as Caprikid and Valkind will make 99% pairs with matching egg group fakemon due to the nature of how they are put into the system.
For pokemon that change body shape during evolution this can have an effect on which pokemon they breed better with so if you are unsure, check the body shapes of the pokemon you are trying to pair together. The more similar in body shape and size they are the better they pair.
Genderless pokemon on the other hand are ones without any gender, like magnemite or golett. A genderless pokemon will have this symbol in place of the male or female symbol. These pokemon can only be bred with a ditto.
As for their max pair % many of them will not reach 90% so below we have collected information which should be their known highest pairings. We'd like to thank everyone who has offered up what they know to make this guide better!
Once again a HUGE thank you to Pheaux for their extensive testing and compiling of monogender and genderless pokemon please check their charts for a more frequently updated listing of possible pairs for monogender and genderless pokemon!
Unown breeding
Unown breeding is it's own beast, we reccomend getting two of the same letter that can make a maximum of 60% compatibility. Different letters are very different and we will not be putting that here. If you don't have the letter you want please check out This unown calculator to figure out what you would need.
Monogender pairs
Pokemon |
Max % |
Partners |
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Kangaskhan |
85% |
Lickitung Whismur Loudred Exploud Helioptile Heliolisk |
Jynx |
85% |
Alakazam Drowzee Hypno Mr. Mime Galarian Mr. Mime Mr. Rime Ralts Kirlia Gardevoir Gallade Meditite Medicham Gothita Gothorita Gothitelle Beheeyem Armarouge |
Hitmonlee Hitmonchan |
85% |
Machoke Machamp Makuhita Hariyama Meditite Medicham Croagunk Toxicroak Timburr Gurdurr Conkeldurr Pangoro Hawlucha |
Hitmontop |
85% |
Machop Monferno Infernape Lucario Mienfoo Mienshao Pancham |
Chansey |
85% |
Audino Indeedee |
Blissey |
85% |
Jigglypuff Wigglytuff |
Throh Sawk |
85% |
Machoke Machamp Makuhita Hariyama Meditite Medicham Croagunk Toxicroak Timburr Gurdurr Conkeldurr Pangoro Hawlucha |
Petilil Lilligant |
85% |
Weepinbell Victreebell Maractus Gossifleur Eldegoss Smoliv Dolliv Arboliva |
Lilligant (Hisuian Forme) |
85% |
Gloom Vileplume Bellossom Bellsprout Sunflora Lombre Ludicolo Nuzleaf Shiftry Roselia Roserade Cacnea Cacturne Tangrowth Whimsicott Lurantis Shiinotic Rillaboom |
Flabebe Floette Florges |
85% |
Spritzee |
Bounsweet |
85% |
Oddish Exeggutor Exeggutor/alolan forme Tangela Seedot Shroomish Cherrim |
Steenee Tsareena |
85% |
Gloom Vileplume Bellossom Bellsprout Sunflora Lombre Ludicolo Nuzleaf Shiftry Roselia Roserade Cacnea Cacturne Tangrowth Whimsicott Lurantis Shiinotic Rillaboom |
* Hatenna |
81% |
Shroomish Swirlix Cherrim |
* Hattrem |
81% |
Togetic Snubbull Whimsicott Slurpuff |
Impidimp Morgrem Grimmsnarl |
85% |
Jigglypuff Wigglytuff Mr. Mime Togetic Snubbull Ralts Kirlia Gardevoir Mawile Cacturne Pawniard Bisharp Whimsicott Pangoro Slurpuff Morpeko Aromatisse Guild Jigglypuff Guild Wigglytuff Snoralts Snolia |
Milcery |
85% |
Cottonee |
* Alcremie |
81% |
Wobbuffet |
Tinkatink Tinkatuff Tinkaton |
85% |
Jigglypuff Wigglytuff Togetic Snubbull Mawile Whimsicott Aromatisse Slurpuff Impidimp Morgrem Grimmsnarl Guild Jigglypuff Guild Wigglytuff Snoralts Snolia |
Genderless pairs
Magnemite |
60-69% |
Magneton |
60-69% |
Magnezone |
55-64% |
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Voltorb |
72-81% |
Electrode |
71-80% |
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Hisuian Voltorb |
72-81% |
Hisuian Electrode |
-% |
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Staryu |
64-73% |
Starmie |
64-73% |
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Porygon |
68-77% |
Porygon2 |
68-77% |
Porygon-Z |
68-77% |
Totem Mega Porygon-Z |
-% |
Lunatone |
64-73% |
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Solrock |
64-73% |
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Baltoy |
64-73% |
Claydol |
62-71% |
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Beldum |
60-69% |
Metang |
54-63% |
Metagross |
43-52% |
Mega Metagross |
-% |
Bronzor |
68-77% |
Bronzong |
54-63% |
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Rotom (all formes) |
72-81% |
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Klink |
60-69% |
Klang |
60-69% |
Klinklang |
60-69% |
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Cryogonal |
69-78% |
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Golett |
64-73% |
Golurk |
47-56% |
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Carbink |
68-77% |
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Minior (both formes) |
68-77% |
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Dhelmise |
51-60% |
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Sinistea |
72-81% |
Polteageist |
72-81% |
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Falinks |
55-64%
99%* With another Falinks |
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Dracozolt |
57-66% |
Arctozolt |
58-67% |
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Dracovish |
55-64% |
Arctovish |
57-66% |
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Tandemaus |
99%* With another Tandemaus/Maushold |
Maushold |
99%* With another Tandemaus/Maushold |
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Kryptik |
64-73% |
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Minibbit |
60-69% |
Metabbit |
-% |
Terabbit |
-% |
Mega Terabbit |
(60-66%) |
Death Star Voltorb |
72-81% |
Death Star Electrode |
(72-79%) |
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Apocalyptic Golett |
(61-69%) |
Apocalyptic Golurk |
(43-50%) |
Counterpart Pairs
A counterpart pair is two pokemon of different species that make a pair, there are a few of these like Miltank and Tauros which we will give (as accurately as we can) their max pair %s
Pokemon | Max % |
---|---|
Tauros Combat Breed Tauros Aqua Breed Tauros Blaze Breed Tauros Miltank |
89% |
Plusle Minun |
85% |
Volbeat Illumise |
89% |
Rufflet Vullaby |
89% |
Level effects on Breeding
Level plays a pretty large role in breeding, several examples below will show exactly what we mean by this
First a level 100 pair with a 99% base compatibility, full happiness. As you can see, they will breed quite well.
Next a a pair that has not a large gap, but a gap all the same. As you can see, this gap causes a drop in their final production rate. -7% isn't a whole lot so this shouldn't be too much of an issue.
Here is a pair that will highlight exactly why level is so crucial to egg production. A level 1 and a level 100 pokemon. As you can see, the gap is so large, they will not make an egg. This is in conjunction with the scatterbug being level 1 and giving a further minus due to it's low level.
and finally, from my testing it appears that the "low level" debuff will use whichever pokemon is the lowest level, and appears to be the amount of levels below 50 the pokemon is.
So please, if you take anything from this, take that you need to level your pairs up to maximise their egg production!
FAQ
Got a question? Check here to see if it's been asked a few times before!
How do I see the % of a pair?
You will need a match up checker from the daycare in order to see their %
I got a 70% pair what did I do wrong?
If you got a 70% pair it means you only got one different OT than yourself. Make sure the pokemon you are pairing are from two different people that aren't you.
What is the max % of X pokemon?
Within the monogender and genderless pokemon section are tables which should give you the known max % of pokemon. If it's not there feel free to ask and we'll try our best to get the information!
How do I find the OT of a pokemon?
A pokemon's summary is your friend! On the summary page of a pokemon is their timeline which lists all of the things that have happened to a pokemon. To work out a pokemon's OT look for a trade (a wonder trade or a regular trade it doesn't really matter) and the person who sent the pokemon in it's very first trade is the OT
Guild Jigglypuff is monogender why is it not listed?
Since guild jigglypuff can get 99% with a regular female Jiggly we didn't feel the need to list it under our monogender listings. It functions as a normal pair.
What does it mean when it says "best case scenario?"
The % displayed for your pokemon's breeding compatibility is their how they breed when they are at their best. Factors such as happiness, level, level gap all affect how well the actual breeding chance is calculated at the time of egg production. Ideally you will want a high level pair at the same level with max happiness to get as close to the best case scenario as possible.
I did everything the guide said how come my pair isn't 99%?
There's a little bit of random chance in here. Having two pokemon from two different OTs doesn't automatically make them 99% compatible, there's a little but of random varience in there that can make a pair that meets these criteria anywhere from 90-99% compatible~
My exclusive pair have 99% compatibility but they barely make eggs, why is that?
Exclusives and varients have a lowered breeding rate to normal pokemon.
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Question with point 1, what happens if you use a Pokemon you hatched yourself? I'm trying to breed this Golett and this Ditto, the latter of which I hatched myself. They've only 46%, which I figure might happen since they're genderless and one is Ditto, but I'm not sure after reading this. I figured just 2 different OTs were fine, but do they both have to not be from you at all?
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QUOTE originally posted by Colress
Question with point 1, what happens if you use a Pokemon you hatched yourself? I'm trying to breed this Golett and this Ditto, the latter of which I hatched myself. They've only 46%, which I figure might happen since they're genderless and one is Ditto, but I'm not sure after reading this. I figured just 2 different OTs were fine, but do they both have to not be from you at all?
Wow for some reason I could not figure this out, thank you!
Quick question though, does evolution play any part in this? For example, if I have a skitty + delcatty pair that are both close/same in level, does it make any difference that one is evolved or no?
QUOTE originally posted by Kattybay
Wow for some reason I could not figure this out, thank you!
Quick question though, does evolution play any part in this? For example, if I have a skitty + delcatty pair that are both close/same in level, does it make any difference that one is evolved or no?
I'm not sure that the shelter does change the OT. I had two Vivillions in my daycare that I was the OT for, and they had a 49% compatibility. I switched one out for a pokemon I recieved the egg of from the shelter and as far as I can tell the OT is still the trainer who's pokemon lay the eggs. The two have a 59% compatibility, and only one of them was bred by me, but both were hatched by me.
QUOTE originally posted by ratgirl34
I'm not sure that the shelter does change the OT. I had two Vivillions in my daycare that I was the OT for, and they had a 49% compatibility. I switched one out for a pokemon I recieved the egg of from the shelter and as far as I can tell the OT is still the trainer who's pokemon lay the eggs. The two have a 59% compatibility, and only one of them was bred by me, but both were hatched by me.
QUOTE originally posted by Suriya
So there is a lot wrong with your post. I'll start from the bottom and go up.
You hatched the eggs. That is why your pair sucked. You cannot be the OT/Breeder of the pokemon you are pairing. You cannot adopt them from the Shelter for yourself. You MUST get them from two different people.
The Shelter DOES change the OT because it's like a dog rescue. You give up your dog/pokemon -- you are not the trainer anymore. That doesn't mean that you can put your pokemon in the Shelter and readopt them, you still bred them. You didn't get them from another person.
Try again, with the help of a couple friends.
Also, this guide was written with the assistance of Garthic; I'm pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.
The bonus comes from being traded to you. By other people.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is. You are the only one having a problem with the guide; this has been used to make A LOT of pairs in my click group.
QUOTE originally posted by Suriya
The bonus comes from being traded to you. By other people.
I'm not sure where the disconnect is. You are the only one having a problem with the guide; this has been used to make A LOT of pairs in my click group.
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