Special Designation for 6IV Pokemon
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There are a good number of Pokefarm players who play by IV breeding, and more who are expressing interest in the concept. I think having a way to recognize the current breeders' efforts in designating 6IV pokemon with a special icon, like shinies, albinos, and melans, would be appreciated, and would intice others to also IV breed themselves.
An added 6IV designation icon would:
- Help with identifying 6IV Pokemon at a quick glance:
-- Helps find them in the shelter and in shops/fields easier
-- Players can quickly check whether a hatched Pokemon is 6IV, instead of having to open their summary page
- Prevent 'dyslexic' mistakes - players reading a 13 stat as 31
- Make owning a 6IV Pokemon more satisfying (IMO), they feel more "special"
- Generate more interest in IV breeding onsite
- Identify 6IV Pokemon in fields users may not be aware they own
- ...and I'm sure more!
I think even having a special hatching animation, like S/A/Ms currently have would be awesome, but that may be another suggestion on top of this one.
And drawbacks:
- Some people breed for 6IV with 0s instead of 31s (for fun, I suppose), unless there was a separate indicator this wouldn't cover that case.
- Maybe more? Please suggest with concerns
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As an IV breeder (both here and in the mainline games) I'd love this!
I have dyslexia & dyscalculia, and don't always read a pokemons summary page correctly as a result - one time I gave my friend a '6IV pair' only to later realise one of the 'mons had a 13 stat and not a 31, oops - so some kind of designated icon or something similar would be super helpful.
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QUOTE originally posted by Salamaunder
I have dyslexia & dyscalculia, and don't always read a pokemons summary page correctly as a result - one time I gave my friend a '6IV pair' only to later realise one of the 'mons had a 13 stat and not a 31, oops - so some kind of designated icon or something similar would be super helpful.
I'm getting interested in IV breeding and would definitely support something like this!
Could even be that there's a "full" 6IV icon, and an "empty" 6IV icon to indicate one way or the other, for an easy visual.
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As an upcoming IV breeder in the Pokefarm community, I find myself unable to fully support the proposed introduction of a special icon to designate 6IV Pokémon. While I appreciate the intention behind the suggestion and acknowledge its potential benefits, several considerations lead me to believe that it may not be the most effective solution to address the needs of breeders and players alike.
Firstly, the existing functionality of the Dojo provides a robust quality-of-life enhancement for checking IVs, offering a convenient and efficient means of verifying Pokémon stats without the need for additional indicators. This feature already serves the purpose of streamlining the identification process, mitigating the necessity for a separate icon solely dedicated to 6IV Pokémon.
Furthermore, the proposed 6IV designation runs the risk of overlooking the diverse breeding strategies employed by players. Some breeders opt for 0IVs over 31IVs for specific purposes or challenges, and failing to accommodate these variations could inadvertently marginalize certain playstyles. Inclusivity is paramount in fostering a thriving and diverse community, and any feature implementation should strive to embrace the breadth of strategies and preferences embraced by players.
While the proposal has merit and underscores a genuine desire to enhance the breeding experience, I believe that exploring alternative solutions and refining existing features may better serve the needs of the community as a whole.
Calypso ~ Adult ~ She/Her
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It is 04:22 AM Mon in Calypso's Cave PFP by Ashe MoonQUOTE originally posted by Calypso Halcyon
Firstly, the existing functionality of the Dojo provides a robust quality-of-life enhancement for checking IVs, offering a convenient and efficient means of verifying Pokémon stats without the need for additional indicators. This feature already serves the purpose of streamlining the identification process, mitigating the necessity for a separate icon solely dedicated to 6IV Pokémon.
QUOTE originally posted by Calypso Halcyon
Furthermore, the proposed 6IV designation runs the risk of overlooking the diverse breeding strategies employed by players. Some breeders opt for 0IVs over 31IVs for specific purposes or challenges, and failing to accommodate these variations could inadvertently marginalize certain playstyles. Inclusivity is paramount in fostering a thriving and diverse community, and any feature implementation should strive to embrace the breadth of strategies and preferences embraced by players.
QUOTE originally posted by Calypso Halcyon
While the proposal has merit and underscores a genuine desire to enhance the breeding experience, I believe that exploring alternative solutions and refining existing features may better serve the needs of the community as a whole.
OK, so I'm on my mobile in the middle of the night and have limited stamina to reply point by point, but I'm going to try to keep up and respond.
I want to be clear in that I am explaining why I do not support, not trying to intentionally argue, spam the feed for visibility, etc.
to me, this suggestion seems like a cosmetic preference of adding an additional icon; I just can't support that when crafty users such as yourself have already found workarounds for displaying perfect iv status8
regarding dojo and removing 'mons from training; challenge also has ability to highlight your perfect 6s and there isn't the additional steps of removing, adding, removing, reassign as referenced in your post
This is a bit of a long one so grab a drink, maybe a snack!
Tldr; I love and support this suggestion!
I am an IV breeder, in a family of IV breeders that play, and have been networking with tons of other players who are IV breeders. There is definitely a large (and still rapidly growing) player base that would benefit from this and it wouldn't in any way hurt or hinder other players from continuing their own play styles.
Currently we do have the dojo which highlights 6iv pokemon and makes it easier to check an entire field all at once. However, another downside not already mentioned for this particular feature is that it's not known. There isn't anything anywhere that tells players "the dojo highlights perfect IV pokemon" and almost every single IV breeder I've spoken too didn't even know this feature existed. I myself stumbled upon it by accident.
The userscript citrisfur made was mentioned as another option we can use instead so I'd like to also touch on that point. While it is true that it exists, and is really well done, it isn't an option at all for mobile players. I myself strictly play on mobile and had to dig out my handheld PC just so I could try it out. It's awesome but I'd have to get on a PC anytime I wanted to use it again and that's just not something I enjoy the idea of. I don't like playing on PC period. Another issue with that is the work that goes into installing the userscript. A kid or someone with no coding knowledge is going to struggle with installing tampermonkey and putting the userscript in properly. I've seen this issue happen with players as well.
Now for reasons why I think this would be great!
For those of us who already IV breed it would make our lives so much easier when it comes to long hunts where we are having to check the IVs of hundreds of pokemon. I'd be able to see at a glance the moment it hatches that it is a perfect IV pokemon and I can then sort it into the proper field immediately rather then tossing everything into dump fields and checking it in the dojo before we release, then having to individually send each pokemon into my IV fields.
There is also the added bonus of non IV breeders pulling our eggs from the shelter and hatching them then surprise! You just got a perfect IV pokemon. Maybe they now get interested in IV breeding, maybe they become interested in sparring and training in the dojo, maybe it opens up other ways to play and have fun for them! I can't tell you how many times I've been searching through someone's free or UFT fields and they have a random 5-6iv pokemon sitting there that they didn't even know about.
An icon seems like the best and easiest solution to me and I really don't see a downside other than Niet would have to code it in, but he's already said in other posts he doesn't shy away from any coding challenge. Anyway, there's all my 2 cents. Thanks for reading, and thank you citrisfur making such a great suggestion.
QUOTE originally posted by Calypso Halcyon
to me, this suggestion seems like a cosmetic preference of adding an additional icon; I just can't support that when crafty users such as yourself have already found workarounds for displaying perfect iv status8
QUOTE originally posted by Calypso Halcyon
regarding dojo and removing 'mons from training; challenge also has ability to highlight your perfect 6s and there isn't the additional steps of removing, adding, removing, reassign as referenced in your post
QUOTE originally posted by WytchyLynx
The userscript citrisfur made was mentioned as another option we can use instead so I'd like to also touch on that point. While it is true that it exists, and is really well done, it isn't an option at all for mobile players. I myself strictly play on mobile and had to dig out my handheld PC just so I could try it out. It's awesome but I'd have to get on a PC anytime I wanted to use it again and that's just not something I enjoy the idea of. I don't like playing on PC period. Another issue with that is the work that goes into installing the userscript. A kid or someone with no coding knowledge is going to struggle with installing tampermonkey and putting the userscript in properly. I've seen this issue happen with players as well.
QUOTE originally posted by WytchyLynx
There is also the added bonus of non IV breeders pulling our eggs from the shelter and hatching them then surprise! You just got a perfect IV pokemon. Maybe they now get interested in IV breeding, maybe they become interested in sparring and training in the dojo, maybe it opens up other ways to play and have fun for them! I can't tell you how many times I've been searching through someone's free or UFT fields and they have a random 5-6iv pokemon sitting there that they didn't even know about.
I want to thank you for the polite discourse. I've been looking at this from multiple angles as others chime in, and in the end, I feel a move to support is warranted.
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